Breakfast with a theologian
March 9, 2008 by Ken
Mnday Morning, March 10, 2008
I got up before sunrise to breakfast with a bona fide, card carrying, published theologian. I needed some counsel. I was eager ask some key questions. I read some of his stuff. His blog site intrigued me. If it’s true that the way we think about God is the most important thing about us, then who better to talk to than a theologian?
He taught at the seminary I call my alma mater. Of course, he began his tenure there a few years after I graduated. My era is considered history now. Not quite ancient history, but history nonetheless. Some of my favorite professors from back then have since been labeled heretics by the new batch of “scholar/theologians.” It’s a new world.
The battle to be the Leading Evangelical Voice is as intense as it is diverse. Some of us have only one or maybe two favorites. We adopt their label proudly. We claim to have come to the conclusion that they are right based on our unbiased research. We’ve considered all the alternatives and in the tradition of Martin Luther (not King) we declare, “Here I stand!” Stay on your chosen track long enough, and you may not even be aware that there are others out there who are deeply convinced you’ve missed the mark - by a mile.
Most of us who have thought about it have some trouble with the label “Evangelical.” A long time ago, “Fundamentalist” was a badge of theological courage… until the Scopes Monkey Trial got the nation sneering in ridicule at Bible-believers. Evangelical was a step up over Fundamentalist on the scale of sophistication. And it remained in place for decades. But now with the media caricature of “Evangelical equals Religious Right,” many jettison the “E” word for something else. Some of the more recent tags, as I’ve encountered them, are “Reformed” (better neo-Reformed, or as some call them, neo-Fundamentalists), “Emergent,” “Postconservative,” and “Postmodern” to name a few.
If you are confused by now, don’t feel alone. Ever since there were twelve, we followers of Jesus have competed for the First Chair (like the First Violin in the Symphony Orchestra). Of course, we’re not the Conductor. But oh, that First Chair. Now there’s a role! You’ll find candidates from every grouping who figure that’s their place in the Kingdom. (I prefer the concert metaphor to “Top Gun,” or “Top Lieutenant” which evoke a militaristic view of the Kingdom. But either one works.)
We wonder at the end of time when the Great Orchestra gathers for the first celestial symphony whose hand Jesus will shake as he takes the baton for the music to begin. Who will be honored as the grand master theological virtuoso?
So it’s dangerous territory to be a Theologian. Tough enough to be a Pastor. I had breakfast with one (a theologian) who is tough minded but possesses a humble heart. He was delightful company for two hours that went by way too quickly.
It’s human nature to have heroes. The historic church called them Saints. Just to be sure, they developed an intricate process called “canonization.” We evangelicals take pride in knowing that we haven’t carved statues of ours and put their images in conspicuous places in the entrance hall. But when Paul warned the Corinthians about the tension between the followers of Paul and Peter and Apollos and Jesus, his message still applies.
Christian theologians must root their conclusions in biblical truth. The Bible trumps Systematics. When a doctrinal System defines the Scripture rather than the other way around, you’ve got yourself a theologian vying for that First Chair.
Maybe one of the first clues that he’s off track is when a theologian/pastor begins to call for the shunning of others who challenge the integrity of his System.
My friend the theologian, along with the pastor/theologian/author who introduced us, who was also there on that sunny morning in San Diego, helped me to understand these things.
And the journey continues.
Copyright 2008 Kenneth E Kemp
“First Chair” doesn’t mean much to this non-musician. How about “play shortstop and bat third” in the evangelical lineup!? Either image, we’ve got a problem.
Bud
Am I missing something….or did you change your format? What happened to “It’s Monday morning and you are a leader……….??
I want more! Next week?
Mom
It’s monday morning and we are humble servants of the living Christ. I am studying Reformation Church History and I am stunned at the atrocities of the church. Protestants, Anabaptists and Catholics killed each other over doctrine. Now “Evangelical” is associated with the Republican Party and subject to ridicule by those who don’t “get it.”
If heresy were punishable by burning today, we would be in real trouble. Can’t we all just get along????
Pam (Last Chair)
The hardest part of theology is that we tend to stray more to the ology than the theo. As a student is hard to remember the balance. College is a four year in-depth training to form the mind to the great ideas introduced to the world- analyzing and challenging them. There is so much knowledge to dive into. That’s the ology. Then there is the theo. Placing all of that knowledge under the Lordship of the one who created the brains who have actually “produced” these thoughts. Knowledge and reason is a great gift that God gave to man, but so is salvation. Our heart is his too. If we are an orchestra than I wonder if I am playing yet or still trying to figure out how to play the instrument. I may have not made out onto the stage, but I am interested in practicing enough to get there. Not for the glory of ourselves should we play, but rather because there is a world that is in need of hearing a divine symphony.
Hey Mom…
It’s Monday morning. You are a leader. Like me, you get caught up in the skirmishes, sometimes sublte, sometimes frontal, that pit one faction of believers against another.
We’ve got better things to do, don’t you think?
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How’s that?
PS - GREAT thought, Heidi - “Not for the glory of ourselves should we play, but rather because there is a world that is in need of hearing a divine symphony.”
Good thoughts. I really like what Heidi Hun had to say. I think everyone from every position is going to be surprised when we get to heaven and the whole story is laid out for us to see. Everyone, especially the most dogmatic among us who think they have the corner on the truth will be humbled by how much we did not know and how much we thought we knew. God and His ways cannot be reduced into some system that we place our confidence in as being the “answer” or “the truth” that is superior to all others putting us (in our minds) in God’s first chair.
Too much pride gets mixed in, and we know what the Father thinks of that.
Jim
Ken, Ken, Ken…you have struck my funny bone. And lets face it that is more attention-getting than funny.
It was so hard for me (the fundamentally trained Bible student) to face the fact when the depravity of man looked at me, a “sliding” high school student, from the other side of my desk… I had to put my systematic knowledge of God aside and tap into a little more of my experience of God.
It is so safe to have God outlined, but so much more fun to have Him to HUGE to outline! Remember everybody needs Jesus: Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Mormons, Christians, etc…. I think our brother Griggs told me of a recovery group called “Adult Children of Evangelicals” or ACE.
JPK
Ken, what would you say if The God in heaven wears a 3 foot high hat and a 1 foot wooden cross hanging from his neck? Phillip Yancey was raised a red neck, fundamentalist and has grown towards heaven in a non theological style that helps this beagle type sniffing for the best trails.
-Dave Wennstrom, Palatine, Illinois
Ken’s translation of Dave’s thoughts –
“Ken, what would you say if God appeared in a way that was shockingly unexpected? Philip Yancey, one of my favorite writers, started in an unlikely place. Born into a back-woods form of fundamentalism, he grew up and developed a non-technical writing style that sent me down the path towards truth… and God.”
In pursuit of simplicity
When faced with complexity
I take shelter in brevity:
“…the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself in love.” Galations 5:6b
Ken, thanks for stirring the pot.
I had wanted to post on last week’s Pew (not smelly) research results yet I cannot let another opportunity pass sans comment. It seems that the subject matter this week serves as yet another refreshing reminder of the petty tendencies we meager humans have to “dress up” our faith approach with terminology and jargon. All the current theological “buzz” words (”neo-Reformed”…”neo-Fundamentalists”, “Emergent,” “Postconservative,” and “Postmodern”, etc.) should never crowd out the sincere approach to follow Christ.
Yet your friend/Theologian must wrestle with some confounding questions, no doubt. By the way, I would have enjoyed being a fly on the wall during the said breakfast discussion!
Your acknowledgement that sincere people often struggle with the vice of pride is spot-on. Further the difficult reality that, “…Some of (your) favorite professors from back then have since been labeled heretics by the new batch of “scholar/theologians” serves as a subtle reminder of how petty well-meaning “theologians” can at times become (think big picture).
I recently completed the epic fictional tale of a Cathedral builder in Medieval England, The Pillars of the Earth, which traces a prior in Kingsbridge whose lifelong goal was to complete a state of the art cathedral. Yet I came away reminded of the brutality and cynicism associated with the church whose political ambition often trumped its sacred duty. Makes you wonder how many times people have done things “in God’s name” which have utterly grieved His heart.
Well done, Ken. You have tweaked our sensibilities once again!
Clint